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Bear in mind this saga has been going on for the best part of two years and seems to be continuing well into the next two, considering John is now launching a criminal lawsuit against dating coach Ice White. Ice White appears to celebrate victory, which is odd as everything has just begun both in America and Peru. John will launch two criminal lawsuits against his rival dating coach. This has got to be the first time in history that a dating coach has launched a criminal lawsuit against another one.

The saga began when John Anthony refused to appear on Ice White’s “Game Global” Channel in 2024, resulting in Ice White discussing with his dating coach panel about the “Problem of John Anthony,” which John clearly wasn’t impressed with. He then made several expose videos of Ice White, claiming the guy had sold dating ad campaigns and marketing featuring other women who had boyfriends—along with claiming Ice White had 0 daygame lays—which in turn turned out to be true or at least not denied by Ice White in the last 2 years, so we will assume it is true.

Ice then used his insider connections to delete John’s YouTube channel, which in turn led John to launch a criminal lawsuit against Ice White, both in the US and Peru—seeking legal damages. Ice White has acted “cool” about this situation but then launched a GoFundMe page, putting his wife after a cancer operation picture on the page: https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-cancer-family-defend-against-legal-harassment-youtuber. This all seems weird for a guy who sent my co-writer of this an infield of him approaching women while he was married with a kid and claimed it was “infield” when it quite clearly wasn’t. There have also been numerous situations of Ice White deleting comments off his YouTube videos, which leads me to believe we don’t get the fair viewpoint of what is really going on in this situation nor what the masses really think. This is similar stuff that John Anthony has pulled before, where he’s deleted a bunch of YouTube comments and has had heavy moderation of his YouTube channel. Both sides seem keen on censoring, and in this modern era where content creators have full control of the comments on their channels and can visually suppress likes and dislikes, it’s unknown what really the general public thinks when negative comments are actively suppressed by both sides.

I don’t believe Ice’s claim on his GoFundMe that he’s been harassed really—it was Ice who made the first video critiquing John Anthony. It was Ice who sucked up to him early in his career and went on his channel and spilled the beans on RSD. It was clear as day John Anthony was a suspicious guy way before this, yet Ice seemingly ignored all this and simply just went ahead with it and tried to get him on his channel. I’d never ask John Anthony for a podcast interview; it simply isn’t worth it. Anyone with half a brain about self-help gurus should really know better than to suck up to this guy. Given the sheer amount of beefs he’s had with other dating coaches and fallings out, Ice should really have known better.

Ice went on an uploading rampage on YouTube, making 10-20 videos about John Anthony. He seemed hell-bent on pursuing the guy—that’s a lot of videos and could be seen as harassment too in some regards—but the info on some of them was interesting, including this one:

Which got 5.8k views and shows John clearly grouping a woman— I guess this is probably what set John off to pursue such direct legal threats against Ice White. Ice also did an interview with an ex-client of John Anthony, who claimed to have been scammed on his $3k course. Altogether, it’s an interesting chain of events that looks set for another 2-year legal battle. If Ice was so confident, then why would he be seeking to raise money from others? I’m not so sure—I have no idea who’s gonna win the lawsuit. I didn’t think John would beat Modern Life Dating, but he ended up doing so with a huge settlement, something which MLD and Ice seemingly ignore. The whole thing reeks of both sides claiming, “We got this in the bag,” when in reality, it seems that neither can be certain.

One thing’s for sure: both dating gurus have suffered damage to their reputations. Ice White for fraudulent advertising, no doubt—John Anthony for weird in-field footage and other claims made by Ice, including the interview with one customer, as mentioned. Who will win? It will probably take until 2028 before we have a firm conclusion, but I have no clue. I see both individuals as manipulative and vindictive people that the “self-help” industry would be better off without. Ice White plays the victim even though he starts beefs with other dating coaches like James Tusk all the time and continually mocks him, too, even though he is a much more successful individual. It’s hard to find likeability or anything positive to say about either, other than they are both scammy marketers—but I will be posting more to keep you updated.

Either way, it’s strange to see both sides seemingly destroying their own personal brands for the sake of this conflict. This is the first time I believe that a dating coach has launched a criminal lawsuit against another one, and probably the last time I suspect something of this magnitude to happen again. Both have likely taken a loss of revenue as a result of this beef. John Anthony has lost his YouTube audience, although he has retained some following on Rumble, a platform that I’m not really bullish on as it struggles to garner viewers. Still, he’s getting something from there, and I’d say a couple of thousand Rumble subs still shows he has some pull. He’s also unlikely to get canceled on Rumble, which means he will always have something to cement his brand with. Ice White continues to do well on YouTube, garnering nearly 20k subs, which for a dating coach in this era is a lot. Had he started 10 years earlier, he’d probably be at the 100-200k levels. Still, it’s good work to grasp that sort of audience in an era where dating coaches are often canceled and have their subs pretty easily removed.

Having said that, asking your followers for cash is already a bit suspect—maybe he sees this escalating. Making meme videos against John Anthony and James Tusk does little to really showcase much confidence. The collaborations with Modern Life Dating, who lost a significant court case to John Anthony, seem confused. Why celebrate an obvious defeat? With a lot of the YouTube comments by Ice White deleted, it’s hard to see which side the mainstream is really on. He continues to attack John Anthony’s previous affair with a transgender woman, which again is old news at this stage. Other dating coaches, most notably Anthony Dream Johnson, spent a lot of time doing the same, and at this point, it’s the same things going over and over for the past 2 years.

All in all, who the fuck knows is the conclusion. I predict John Anthony may actually win this case, seeing as he has more financial muscle than Ice White, and Ice White’s crowdfunding campaign is probably a sign of weakness at this stage. But time will tell. The video below is quite interesting; however, it claims that Ice used fake statistics to damage John’s reputation regarding YouTube. This is clearly not the case, as his arguments showed statistical data taken from John’s YouTube videos themselves, so I believe Ice’s side will be able to at least defend themselves on this standpoint. The other parts regarding Ice using insider links to delete John Anthony’s channel could be a bit hazy, and to be honest, I have no idea how that pans out.

In the end though Ice White’s actions in reaction to this lawsuit continue to be questionable recently inviting controversial pickup artist David Bond on his channel Game Global despite allegations that he has been convicted for 17 years in Brazil for the sexual exploitation of minors.

Despite the controversy surrounding David Bond, Ice White was happy to host him. Despite showcasing John Anthony’s court cases and past infields, he seemed okay with David Bond’s questionable past and didn’t seem to care. I guess his hatred for John Anthony is so strong that any enemy of John is a friend of his, regardless of what that person has done in the past. It seems somewhat hypocritical from Ice, to be honest. I imagine if there were a Brazilian CNN article that had sentenced John Anthony to 17 years in prison, Ice would definitely use it against John, but when it comes to his own guests on his channel, he doesn’t seem to care.

But the controversy with Ice White doesn’t end there, as he simply deletes comments that seem to disagree with his narrative. One YouTuber commented on Ice White’s video, “Move on to something more important, like showing your infield.” Ironically, Ice White has no daygame lays and no infield other than when he was married with a kid, asking another female for her Instagram. Additionally, any comments that critique Ice White get deleted, so no one really knows how many people agree with his motivations or his abilities.

Of course, people have the right to question someone who claims they are good at something when they have no actual evidence that they are. In Ice White’s case, that’s precisely the situation—there’s no real evidence he’s good at anything he says he is. This has always been a valid criticism. He doesn’t seem to differentiate between people who are good and those who are bad. If he did, he would have invited James Marshall or Nick Krauser. Instead, he asks John Anthony for interviews, interviews David Bond, and other scammers like Arash Dibazar or Ross Jeffries, who obviously have no ability, just by listening to them. In the case of Arash, how can you trust a guy with ridiculous tattoos like that?

Anyway, with a balanced perspective, it will be good to see how this case pans out. I will be providing updates on it in the future.