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Decided to draw up a list of my 12 favourite seduction books – this is a list of the books that were most helpful to me during my seduction journey of doing daygame in London . I have 0 financial ties of affiliations with any of these authors. I’ve never met the authors of any of these books nor have I got any commissions or affiliate links to said books. This list is not in order of importance or in order of my personal favourites – the order of importance will vary depending on which stage of seduction said person is at. For example if you’re an absolute beginner The Rational Male, Models and the Psychology of Romantic love maybe the best books. If you’re an intermediate perhaps something on the lines of A Natural History by James Marshall might be most appropriate. They also help with different sticking points for example if your dress sense is garbage then say Tanner Guzy’s The Appearance of Power would be optimal in that regard.
12. Liam Mcrae – The Limitless Seducer:
Liam was an Australian based dating coach one of the coaches that actually makes it onto the list twice – one that I greatly admire for his contributions to men’s dating in general. Limitless Seducer sets an important example of time management and obtaining a balanced dating life. Sometimes he appears lazy- like banging what appears to be a Thai sex worker on tinder (though he didn’t pay for it) I believe online lays in general serve little relevance to 80-90 percent of the dating community as most men involved in the seduction and pua community are general the lower end of men’s dating and are incapable of getting online days – or worse end up getting scammed on the apps . But nonetheless it’s an enjoyable book- Liam writes well , goes through the ups and downs well here and for any beginner or even intermediate adds good value here.
To buy the Limitless Seducer:
Useful interview with Liam about building a social circle: https://pkexperience.com/natural-seduction-with-liam-mcrae-and-guest-robbie-kramer/
11. Zan Perrion – The Alabaster Girl :
Ok this is a book that made the list due to the value of Zan and his long term contributions to the pick up community rather than my admiration for Zan’s book per-say. I think the book is pretty average and convoluted but I still think he offers good advice to beginners who need that final push into being proactive. That being said I feel Tom Torero’s “Daygame” and Nick Krauser’s “Ball’s Deep”. Have better infield advice – Zan Perrion’s alabaster girl reads too much like a spiritual woo woo wisdom which is confusing to follow at times. One of the infield description in Poland is him literally telling a woman she’s beautiful – accepting the date then a huge excitement of “yay!” Then that’s just it… Yet I believe his baseline arguments in his speeches are decent enough to push a beginner into action. He was in the original book “the game” and I still value the bloke for all he did. His podcast interviews are interesting too – but I believe there are better coaches out there.
Zan Perrion’s 21 Convention speech:
10. Tom Torero : Daygame
A must read and now available for free since his passing Tom Torero’s “Daygame” is crucial for all daygame beginners and intermediates available here:
To download for free: https://archive.org/details/daygame-a-street-seducers-journey/page/n183/mode/2up?view=theater
This book documents the trials and tribulations of daygame – it’s not simply a “I fucked this hoe and she loved it” but does go in depth about the problems of escalating too quickly on the date, dealing with objections, the strengths and weaknesses of his said wingmen . Whilst also going through all the highs and lows of daygame – the tough mental strain and generally some good dating advice. Torero’s work ethic and passion for meeting people on the street has never been more apparent here and especially for those older looking to get the best out of their dating lives this is a fantastic book to read. Torero’s podcasts have also been uploaded here for free:
https://www.youtube.com/@tomtorero-blacksheepbandit/videos
9. Tanner Guzy- The Appearance of Power
Tanner is not a PUA nor a dating coach in fact he’s pretty much the polar opposite of a “Daygamer” In that he had a family of 6 children with a mormon woman. Despite his heavily conservative roots I think his book has great value to day gamers and those who are into cold approach. As I believe that fashion is – single handley the quickest and easiest way to improve sexual market value this book serves to highlight the importance of it. Whilst I think dating coaches have on average decent average fashion – such as Alex Leon, Nick Krauser , Tom Torero – some for example Sasha Daygame, Ice White, Yad have horrific fashion and should not be followed as an example. Others like Liam McRae, James Marshall, Paul Janka set a good example all be it I feel at times they too could be a bit better (of course this all subjective)
Tanner explores in depths the importance of appearance which could be useful for those daygamers who need convincing about improving set characteristic. Tanner himself is now divorced and has endured a rough ride fighting for the custody of his children in recent times but I still think his instagram can add value to those in the daygame sphere – though I believe his opinion on LTR and marriages are brutally naive you can disagree with someone on some points but still agree with them on others right?
I feel style is a sticking point particularly in those men who are starting out daygame young can be naive about their style and it can cause them blow outs and deny them opportunities with women- following Tanner Guzy’s insights can be helpful in fixing this problem.
Tanner Guzy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tannerguzy/?hl=en
Tanner Guzy on Twitter: https://twitter.com/tannerguzy?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Tanner Guzy’s Youtube for men’s style info: https://www.youtube.com/@MasculineStyle/videos
Tanner’s Speeches at the 21 Convention:
8. Liam McRae – Rapid Escalation
Former coach of TNL who quit in 2019 and 21 convention speaker – ex Melbourne seduction lair man Liam Mcrae is back on this list again with his second book Rapid Escalation which was an enjoyable riveting read one that I read in 2016 – the year before I got into daygame . This one really helped me in showing the importance of pulling the trigger and how to be an interaction sexual. Liam has – permanently quit the game removing himself from all TNL videos and his 21 convention speeches have since been deleted but his interviews still add a lot of value especially for those who have issues escalating on dates and reading women’s signals .
To buy : https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rapid-Escalation-Average-Dating-Process/dp/1483970930
7. James Marshall – A Natural History
This book is quite hard to get your hands on but if you do it could well be worth while . A biography of James Marshall’s early life- A Natural History which starts in 2007 – this book ventures into the beginning of James Marshall’s life as daygame coach- his development diaries and the trials and tribulations he faced. Most prominently his seduction stories doing daygame in 2008 in Ukraine ( the place where his grandparents are from) are particularly interesting though most of his lays he achieved on online dating on myspace don’t appear relevant today . Of course the competition he would have faced gaming in Eastern Europe is far less than that he would’ve faced today but it’s still interesting to see his progress and adaptability moving from Australia to Eastern Europe.
His book is interesting, his life is interesting and could be seen as a great example for those looking for “ lifestyle design” particularly towards a younger crowd I believe James’ sets a better example than other prominent dating coaches like Ross Jefferies , Tom Torero and Nick Krauser on how to build an interesting life and interesting team- a flaw in both young and old daygamers is that they appear too much like lone wolves and are unable to really build a sense of community around themselves . Whilst his coaching may be seen as brutally overpriced his content remains great, his speeches on general lifestyle design is great and he sets a good example to men in building a genuinely adventurous and interesting life.
Where this book seemingly falls down towards the end where he marries a Ukrainian model who appears to just be using him for a passport. This Ukrainian model then just goes to Australia and cheats on him at a music festival. You’d expect someone with so much experience as James to have a bit more common sense than this but he doesn’t he makes a rookie error in marrying a gold digger from the dumpster of Eastern Europe to just be used for his status and passport in that country (a similar to that of my brother)
Despite this calamity at the end (and every dating coach makes mistakes ) its still an iconic worthwhile books for beginners, intermediates and even advanced individuals.
To buy: https://ebin.pub/a-natural-history-the-seduction-journals-of-james-marshall-1nbsped.html
James Marshall’s 21 Convention Speech:
To buy more of James Marshall’s Products and Coaching: https://thenaturallifestyles.com/workshops/
6. Mark Manson Models
Mark Manson’s book titled “Models” has been one of the more popular seduction self help books that have stood the test of time . It didn’t cause the same level of media stir that Neil Strauss’s “The Game” did but in my eyes this gives a lot of practical advice that men can use. When applied to basic daygame and continuous self improvement in SMV for men I believe this book serves as a good – basic guide to dating for men to build a solid foundation on .
5. Rollo Tommasi – The Rational Male
Sometimes a pessimistic out look on relationships but Rollo Tommasi’s The Rational Male has been one of the highly impactful books on the Seduction and Self help industry. With Rollo deriving the majority of his ideas during his time as a moderator of the SoSauve forums- a relationship discussion forum for men. Does Rollo have the most receipts compared to actual dating coaches like Tom Torero , Nick Krausser for example most probably not. Did he take advantage over an era of record high divorce rates , an era of “lost boys” , it’s debatable , him and Richard Cooper enjoyed a monumental rise to fame as a result of the rise of the redpill . Nevertheless I think some of his viewpoints on relationship dynamics are good – does it warrant an extension to a four book series perhaps not but still makes for interesting reading nonetheless.
His emphasis on men creating options , on rejection being better than regret is crucial for day gamers to pick up . His analysis of age and SMV is also good for beginners and for older men who are concerned that age can be an issue to their impact on the game. His discussion on “false alpha’s” is important to men who’ve even endured a lot of success from gaming in certain areas like being the cool kid at university or popular at high school to struggling once leaving said environment to new ones. I believe this in of itself is why men need to crucially move forward and constantly be developing their social circles and create something new and exciting about themselves and Rollo’s work was key to me understanding this.
4. Ball’s Deep- Nick Krauser
Nick Krauser is strong on the fundamentals of daygame and a proactive leader in the early 2010s era of daygame- Along with Tom Torero he’s set a shining example for day gamers of this era. Similar to Tom he enjoys gaming in Eastern Europe – his speeches for the 21 convention and interviews have added a huge amount of value to the manosphere and to men’s dating but his blog too is also a realistic depiction of what daygame is like for men to follow- free from the bullshit . He goes into the highs and lows of daygame similar to Tom Torero – there are no exaggerations , there is no 300 Lays or gang bangs every day- he gives a realistic account of what daygame is and the struggle. He also emphasises strongly on the importance of SMV that daygame can’t fix your dating problems alone unless you have some SMV to begin with. Something which I whole heartedly agree with – too many lazy people com into the space thinking they can fix their dating lives with a half assed work ethic to life and that’s simply not the case- probably blame this generation of online dating and “ai dating” coaches for setting that precedent but whatever. Daygame is tough work but can be very rewarding and Nick Krauser’s books can be a really good example of the long term benefit of working hard in your dating life.
Nick Krauser’s 21 Convention Speech:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNenQcjEgb4&t=434s
Nick Krauser Speech in London:
To buy Nick Krauser’s Ball’s deep :
Nick Krauser’s website: https://krauserpua.com/
3. The Psychology of Romantic love by Nathaniel Branden :
I will write a proper blog post about this book as there’s a lot to digest here – but i believe it can be very useful to those starting out in daygame and having a think about serious relationships.
Having said this Im not sure I agree with all of the concepts here in the book the psychology of romantic love( – I believe making sacrifices does create value and sexual exclusivity somewhat can have positivity in relationships and that sex and pornography can be destructive to some measure – i.e. sex addicts, women with high body counts can in some cases have a lot of negative traits associated with them and usually have psychological problems like daddy issues. I believe there are a lot of proper modern day examples that can be used to argue well against Nathaniel Branden’s points.
Romantic love can happen in non exclusive relationships – yeah Ive fallen in love with women I’ve dated with in the past and in non exclusive relationships . Whilst this is true I’ve seen going through too many non exclusive relationships can fuck up women and men respectively – I believe there’s a balance between that conservative religious guy who marries the first woman she meets outs of love or out of “god” and the PUA who leapfrogs from relationship to relationship. Similarly to The Rational Male and Models there’s some good concepts for beginners here – men who come from strict religious or conservative backgrounds can benefit from this book .
Anthony Johnson’s Speech on The Psychology of Romantic Love:
2. The Rational Male – Religion
I actually felt this book was more useful than the first for some people – Religion is the third book in the Rational male series and whilst not being the most useful to a daygamer per say it still had aspects that were very useful one sticking point of a lot of people who enter daygame or those who are considering entering the realm of daygame is they heavily influence their decisions on religion or have religion factoring into their dating life. I felt a lot of men were placing huge emphasis on religion without even thinking about other aspects of their partners. For example loving a partner simply because they are muslim – which i just don’t agree with in many ways a person’s religion is irrelevant to them really being a compatible partner- it doesn’t take any real effort to say you’re religious nor is it a clear sign of SMV value that you’ve worked on . However both men and women treat it as it invaluable component of SMV with some men/women even refusing to date the opposite sex based on the fact that the compatible other is simply not religious which ends up losing out on good opportunities whilst also over valuing others simply because the person is of the same religion .
Religion impacts a lot of people’s relationship decisions and I still see my wingmen making relationship decisions based on the opposite sexes religion more often enough to appease their families’ belief systems without thinking rationally (no pun intended) . I believe the Rational Male – “Religion” can help men who come from a more conservative background to make the flip into daygame. I can say religion is often a weakness in females too (sometimes not voluntarily) – with a lot of females often making the jump into a certain relationship with a man simply because said man is the same religion – or even worse like in some Muslim and Hindi faiths – forced into a marriage because of the convenience factor or make some bullshit decision to marry their cousin based on Allah’s words – or have excessive children simply because Allah told them to. I think for people’s dating lives they need to ignore religion fully and just focus on real positive factors of their partner , their good habits , their health/fitness, their money, their sense of adventure etc. and remove religion from the page completely. I always felt religion was just the breeding ground of ignorance that stopped men from being truly optimal in their dating lives.
- Tom Torero – Street Hustle –
While this book holds a lot of similarities to Nick Krauser’s balls deep and Tom Torero’s previous product Girlfriend Sequence so if you already have downloaded/read that there is more likely little value to be had here. Whilst a lot of the ideas are simply a combination of concepts found on Daygame.com I believe this is still a good book for absolute beginners- I maybe a Tom Torero fan boy but Im also well aware and I believe to a large end degree Im overly positive about him compared to most in the manosphere ( as I believe his podcasts do add a lot of good quality free value for men) I can understand the animosity around him – the fact that a lot of his ideas in the book could be interpreted as plagiarism of Nick Krauser’s and other daygame.com coaches. But whatever I m not a copy right lawyer so I don’t really think its my place to judge per say. Like Nick Krauser Tom builds a sense of realism in his coaching methodologies something I think is invaluable for beginners – telling them that a rotation of 3 or more is going to be difficult to maintain which I most definitely agree with- heck a rotation of 2 or more was pretty mentally and physically draining for me when I was gaming consistently . His advice on marriage is pretty solid – some of it similar to Rollo Tomassi’s the Rational Male- read in conjunction with Nick Krasuer and Rollo Tomassi’s book I think you get a generally good grasp of the London Daygame Model and how to move forward from there.
Tom Torero Street Hustle Preview : https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Street_Hustle/bWfDEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=inauthor:%22Tom+Torero%22&printsec=frontcover
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