Mindful Masculinity

Disclaimer: I am not a dating coach nor am I selling any dating products or services this blog is really for recreational usage to reflect on my previous experiences in daygame and to share my insight. For those wondering I am based in London/Nice/San Francisco so for those who want to network in the future please email: darrenpua1@gmail.com thanks

Pat SteadMan:

21 Convention speaker Pat Steadman is someone is see as a decent dating coach – whilst I don’t believe he has the brand appeal of a Tom Torero or a global impact in the way of The Natural Lifestyles or a Simple pickup nevertheless he has a decent following – posts good info on twitter regarding relationships and is someone who I think a lot of people can learn from .

He’s also one of the few dating coaches who actually has a loving family , seemingly successfully transitioned to the nuclear family and is in a  stable relationship . He’s also the only dating coach that I know that’s been to jail – arrested in his involvement in the Capitol Riots he has since been released from prison at the time of writing and still coaches and tweets regularly.  Some info that everyone can learn from. 

Verdict:  Decent enough outcome – good loving family and not divorced something which someone like Mystery or Tanner Guzy can’t really attest too. In fact most the old g dating coaches other than Zan Perrion none of them are actually in a LTR as of the time of writing which is November 2024. 

Jesse From Simple Pickup 

When it comes to analysing all of the simple pickup crew its undoubted the impact that they had was global – I don’t think anyone will match these three in terms of impact they had on the game – they showed that even with disabilities that you could glean successes from daygame – whether you loved or hated them their impact will most likely go unmatched forever – taking advantage of a much freer YouTube and being the first people to utilise and take advantage of the subscription based model .

Having said that some of Jesse’s practices I found a bit iffy- In particular his online dating product Endless Options which claimed to get fat girls stunning girls with just a few lines. The reality was far from this – they used an attractive male 9 and gleaned matches pretending it was a fat guy in their marketing system. 

It’s a shame when a lot of coaches or course sellers seemingly deny the point of SMV and disregard it at all by selling marketing dreams to schmucks but it seemed like Jesse didn’t care. 

Jesse was also seemingly purchasing prostitutes on seeking arrangements and offering them up to $5k for a visit seemingly quite a act of desperation all things considered – there’s something off about an ex pua coach paying for hookers.  

Having used Project Go in 2014 I can honestly say as a beginner it was a decent product for me so no hate on them for the original stuff they released – it was a lot of content at a decent price at the time. 

Verdict: For their impact between 2012-2014 was undoubted – it’s hard to see Jesse as nothing more than a scam marketer now – considering he has a profile on seeking arrangements its a pretty sad end. Then again he made his f u money so he probably doesn’t give a flying fuck about anyone. 

Jason From Simple Pickup: 

Definitely the most authentic of the group – Jason was definitely the “fan favourite” who moved on early for Simple Pickup accused of not being hungry enough for entrepreneurship by the other two. Then again he was the most likeable and seemingly the one who did the “least bad things” post breakup. He never stole Jesse’s girlfriend like Kong did- and never ran into scammy marketing or paying for prostitutes a kin to Jesse. All in all if authenticity is the aim of the game Jason had the most of out of the three and seemed the least greedy by far. It’s sad to see your three pick up idols break up  but it is what it is. He seemingly pivoted to being a life coach after making a failed “prank YouTube channel” one prank involved him getting knocked out by a random dude on the street after Jason continually mocked him. 

Jason’s break up from the simple pickup trio is a sign that business isn’t necessarily all about virtue- it seemed that in post breakup interviews that Jesse and Kong accused Jason of not having the same grind and passion as they did. From the outside looking in I probably wouldn’t really agree with this. From my perspective I believe Jason was the one who didn’t want to commit to scammy and marketing shit whereas the other two would do so. 

Verdict: Like-ability wise it’s undeniable – he had the most charisma and authenticity out of all three of them. He wasn’t greedy and didn’t have the lust to fuck people over. I’ll never forget his content and the positive impact he had on my life during my early pickup years and he will forever be my favourite of the three.

Kong Pham From Simple Pickup :

 Showing by far the most entrepreneurial flare out of the three Kong Pham’s hunger to succeed is evident.  Coming from humble beginnings of a Vietnamese immigrant family in the US to being the CEO of Jump Cut- a platform designed to help Youtubers maximise their earnings.   Kong was also involved with apparently stealing Jesse’s girlfriend in a very bizarre turn of events. It’s hard to take the guy seriously after that- I mean how much of dick do you have to be to steal your ex business partner’s girlfriend.  Nevertheless his impact on the YouTube entrepreneurship space is undeniable (I wouldn’t want to be his friend or business partner though) able to scale multiple businesses out and be financially free is every entrepreneur’s dream. He was arguably the pioneer in the “monthly subscription based” business model that so many online entrepreneurs lean on now.

Verdict: He had his success I can’t deny him that. Project Go and Jump Cut set him up for life.  Is he a untrustworthy dickhead though? Most likely. 

Zan Perrion :  

21 Convention speaker and Game forefather Zan Perrion – The Author of the Alabaster Girl who was in the original book the game- actually funny fact he’s the only person from that book that’s still in a relationship with an actual woman- Ross Jeffries, Neil Strauss and Mystery are all single! Known for his great speeches and self help motivation talks he resides in Romania with his girlfriend . He continues to do public speaking to this day. His book Alabaster Girl remains one of the most popular in this space.  The book received good reviews on Amazon but for my personal perspective is was a little too “spiritual” and had a 1900s writing style to it that I couldn’t really immerse myself into. 

Verdict: A pua coach in a relationship!? Who’d have thought – but seriously he’s aged well and seems to still be in shape, healthy, with a daughter from another relationship and having been a two time 21 Convention speaker what’s not to like about him? Definitely an impactful positive person on the pickup space. 

Robbie Kramer : 

Another ex 21 convention speaker Robbie Kramer – who’s specialities lie in Podcasting and social circle game – he’s gone from daygame to being a social circle expert and is now married. One of the few 21 convention speakers to actually make a LTR with a high value beautiful woman. His leverage podcasts have achieved hundreds of thousands of downloads and his 21 con speeches hundreds of thousands of views. He Is also still coaching and making content on instagram to this day though the quality is sometimes clickbaity and questionable . Which probably serve to entice more people to buy his “social circle” coaching courses more than anything. 

Verdict : Can’t hate on the guy – he’s in a happy marriage, had business success and is now seemingly travelling the world with a hot Ukrainian wife – what’s not to like. Although I’d say now his content is not as enjoyable as before hand.